Health Care

[laughing66607]

I am sure this is a post some where but what the hell does abortion or viagra got to do with health care?

http://www.mercurynews.com/breaking-new ... ck_check=1

Most of the men that I know that have received viagra and most of the women that have chosen abortion didn't have a damn thing to do with health care. In most cases the men that I have known were all ready fucking that took viagra, if you want to see colors... buy lsd, it is cheaper and the sex is better. Most abortions are by choice and we shouldn't have to pitch in for them either. Now, if it is truly for a medical reason then you may have an argument but fer chris sakes, don't ask me to pay for your hard on's.

[divemaster]

Who really knows what is going on all the real planning is going on behind closed doors! Read this article and all you really have is assumptions or leaks. This closed debate is worse than anything in the past, it's like some security or war effort is being debated and the door closed to the R's.

This is the change America voted for
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/12/08/democratic-senators-agree-drop-government-run-insurance-option/

Then you have a social planner having immunity?

Oh boy we need more change! Damm this is soooooo good!

[Greggzee]

This just in.......a new twist!!

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091217/ap_ ... e_overhaul

[divemaster]

These guys won't give up. Like others they won't take no for an answer! It will come up again or may be attached to something that is not even related, but is really needed.

[laughing66607]

I can not believe what I am seeing, DC is broke. This health care bill is the biggest cluster buster I think I have ever seen. I still don't know what it does but when Harry Reid came out and said, "There is something in this bill for every senator that voted for it", I knew we were screwed. The democrat's took the "republican brand" and made them look like pikers. If this whole process hasn't shown the American public just how corrupt our system has become then nothing will.

The only thing we can do at this point is vote every incumbent out of office, both democrat and republican and do it every election cycle until they get it.

"American exceptionlism", I don't know when we lost it but we did, our system is as corrupt as any I have ever seen, what a damn shame.

[Stalewind]

Laughinng you can't "blame" Republicans for this Health Care Bill.

This was all done in secret by Queen Nancy, King Harry and Obama behind closed doors, without Republicans or the C-Span camera's as "promised" by the lying sack of shit you voted into office.

We'll see if any Democratic Senators get cold feet between now and the Christmas Eve vote? Passage in the Senate means there will have to be some compromise with the House Bill, and that will be difficult for the Democrats to resolve.

Medicare was alredy expected to be broke by 2020 (if not sooner), and now the Democrats are claiming they can include people at age 55 and it won't cost anymore money or raise taxes. If you believe that I have a bridge to sell you!

But I do agree, it's time we throw everyone out and eliminate both political parties.

[divemaster]

I can not believe what I am seeing, DC is broke. This health care bill is the biggest cluster buster I think I have ever seen. I still don't know what it does but when Harry Reid came out and said, "There is something in this bill for every senator that voted for it", I knew we were screwed. The democrat's took the "republican brand" and made them look like pikers. If this whole process hasn't shown the American public just how corrupt our system has become then nothing will.

The only thing we can do at this point is vote every incumbent out of office, both democrat and republican and do it every election cycle until they get it.

"American exceptionlism", I don't know when we lost it but we did, our system is as corrupt as any I have ever seen, what a damn shame.

I would have to agree, vote them all out and then term limits and do away with lobbyist. .

[Greggzee]

Well it appears the Democrats will shove this Bill down our throats even though the majority of Americans oppose it.
This is how Liberals work. They know what is best for Americans.
They may not know it, but they sure are signing their ticket back home. 2010 is the mid term report card. I guess we'll see huh?
At least when the Republicans took power and had the 'Contract with America' the items on there were things the majority of the American People wanted......
and it took them a lot less time to produce!

[Stalewind]

I really doubt we will see "passage" of either Health Care Bill.

The Senate and House versions are different and a compromise will be politically difficult if not impossible.

And even "if" there is a compromised Bill signed by Obama, the law will be overturned by the newly elected Congress in 2011.

[laughing66607]

Well it appears the Democrats will shove this Bill down our throats even though the majority of Americans oppose it.
This is how Liberals work. They know what is best for Americans.
They may not know it, but they sure are signing their ticket back home. 2010 is the mid term report card. I guess we'll see huh?
At least when the Republicans took power and had the 'Contract with America' the items on there were things the majority of the American People wanted......
and it took them a lot less time to produce!

And Sean will make sure they have their new list of ten for this next election. Leave it to the dems, they got the goose that laid the golden egg and they decided to screw the damned goose. This health care bill/Insruance reform will be their down fall, not because of the bill it self but the whole sale corruption it took to get those 60 votes but don't you republicans be patting yourselves on the back because they looked like scumbags too. They even admit we have problems but they would ratherl bring O'bama and the dems down than actually do anything that would be good for their constituets. They have no plan at all, they talk about things like, "Health Savings Accounts", btw, they already have them, is that a joke. Let us not forget, Tort reform, as Claire said, "We have tort reform in Missouri", anyone seen their premiums go down?" They all make me sick and as far as I am concerned, they all have sold this country down the river.