National Ocean Council And Law Of Sea Treaty

[divemaster]

Interesting bit of news.

http://stevenjohnhibbs.wordpress.com/2010/07/28/agenda-21-national-ocean-council-and-law-of-sea-treaty-lost/

[Greggzee]

This is something that some have feared all along.
Obama is building a fortress with his circumvention of the need for Congressional approval.
He is using Czars and Executive Orders to bring about the 'social change' he could never get through Constitutional means.
Hopefully in November his days will be numbered.

[Stalewind]

Yup and Laughing is wearing his MSNBC issued Rachel Maddow blinders.

The "Good News" is in a few months the balance of power will change, and Obama will not like the new checks and balances on his power or politcal agenda.

And in 4 years, we are likely to elect a new President.

Not sense Reagan has this country elected a "leader". Some will argue his politics and agenda, but few can dispute his success and ability to reach out to his political enemies and find common ground to govern the nation and improve the world.

And that seems to be the problem, we keep electing "politicians" who talk the talk to win the offices, but can't walk the walk once they get there.

Say what you want about Reagan, if he said something people listened and took notice. The Iranians freed the hostages before he finshed taking the oath of office. They knew there was gonna be hell to pay the Captain, after he lifted his hand off the Bible. The Russians bankrupt lost their ability to control Poland and the eastern block broke away. When he said tear down the Wall in Berlin, they had no choice. And Libya got the message real quick, we know where you sleep in the desert and can deliver military packages to your tent. Even the Democrats respected the President and found the courage to work with him.

Those were the days when America was GREAT!

[divemaster]

Now it seems obama is also trying to give illegals more rights by executive order and once again bypassing the constitution. Couldn't you hear Laughing if Bushy did all these things, he would be really mad.

[Stalewind]

Like many moderates and independents, Laughing drank the kool-ade which was spiked with the message "Hope & Change" by the progressives and liberals.

By the end of the Obama term he's going to realize the price of "Hope"!

And that "Change" was just a mantra for minorities and muslims.

[laughing66607]

I didn't drink anything, I wanted a regime change, I wanted them neo cons and pnac'ers out of that town. We can always get rid of O'bama just don't put the idiot's back in charge.

I wanted to undo what Phil Grahm did, I wanted him to get rid of cheney;s pals that were' "Not" regulating the oil companies but he sent some stupid wench in there to talk them into going green. Them oil companies must have been laughing their asses off. I did want transperancy and so far I haven't gotten much of what I wanted, probably never will.

However, there is one thing I know, when the republican's take back power the coporate feeding trough will be over flowing once again while they try and decimate Social Security and Medicare.

[Stalewind]

Laughing both political parties maintain power from the corporate feeding trough.

If you think Bush & Republicans were bad, you haven't been following who's been feeding Obama and the Democrats.

Typical Laughing let's bitch and complain about the last ones and just completely ignore what the current ones are doing now.

[laughing66607]

Once again you read what you want to read. The republican's are going after the "entitlement's" and I know dem's get corprate money too but not like boner and friends. They want to cut us poor folks out of the loop so they can have their little wars. Dickless cheney already told you the, "middle class" is going to have to take a hit, go ahead... take your hit. There has never been a republican that has shrunk government, they just "privatize" so their pal's can get MO Money and they still grow government. They use our young for cannon fodder.

As soon as I hear, God, Country, the Constitution and smaller government out of a polotician's mouth... I know I am getting ready to get fucked! Kiss my Grits!

[Stalewind]

Laughing you have a warped sense of "history".

It was the Democrats who wanted to cut defense and military spending. The political "compromise" involved cutting non-combat roles and using private contractors. At the time we weren't at war and the Democrats pushed the plan as a great idea and huge savings. They called it a "Peace Dividend"

There were some who warned against this change, but neither political party listened.

Then we had 9/11 and decided it was time to fight a war. It wasn't Bush's idea alone, Democrats and other governments spoke of Saddam's growing threats and Congress demanded and approved a military action against Saddam and terrorists. It wasn't one political party, it was a political climate and both parties endorsed and encouraged it.

But committing the military meant using contractors to carry out the non-combat support roles.

And again everyone knew it!

And contractors made large contributions to both political parties, to win these contracts.

All the politicians loved this because it fueled their campaigns and secured them in office.

Go back and Google a little, of the politicians that favored "war" or accepted contributions from defense contractors and lobbyists... few if any were defeated in elections. And they were from both political parties.